Does anyone know what happened to the Flying Turtle Restaurant at
Mansfield OH (MFD)? I flew past there a couple of weeks ago and the
ATIS stated that it was closed. At the time, I assumed this was
temporary, but I was thinking of heading there for lunch tomorrow and
I called & found the number was disconnected.

Thanks,
Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

"Eric Bartsch" > wrote in message ...
> Does anyone know what happened to the Flying Turtle Restaurant at
> Mansfield OH (MFD)? I flew past there a couple of weeks ago and the
> ATIS stated that it was closed. At the time, I assumed this was
> temporary, but I was thinking of heading there for lunch tomorrow and
> I called & found the number was disconnected.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Bartsch

You have an ATIS that informs you that the local restaurant it closed?

Interesting!

David

>
> You have an ATIS that informs you that the local restaurant it closed?
>
> Interesting!
>
> David

That's exactly what I thought when I tuned in the MFD ATIS a couple of
weeks ago. They have had quite a bit of restaurant traffic on the
weekends in the past, so I guess the tower thought they might as well
add it in the remarks section. I expect that if it reopens, they
should list the daily special right after the altimeter setting...

Thanks,
Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

On Mar 17, 3:24 pm, "Eric Bartsch" > wrote:
> Does anyone know what happened to the Flying Turtle Restaurant at
> Mansfield OH (MFD)? I flew past there a couple of weeks ago and the
> ATIS stated that it was closed. At the time, I assumed this was
> temporary, but I was thinking of heading there for lunch tomorrow and
> I called & found the number was disconnected.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Bartsch
> 1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

This is bad news. Mansfield is my midway stop for fuel (for me and the
plane) between Minneapolis and Rhode Island.

Cary Mariash
N336TS DA42
CP-ASMEL/IA

>
> This is bad news. Mansfield is my midway stop for fuel (for me and the
> plane) between Minneapolis and Rhode Island.
>
> Cary Mariash
> N336TS DA42
> CP-ASMEL/IA

Just heard today that Vince's restaurant at Muncie, IN (MIE) is also
closed now. At least the burger place at Urbana, OH was still open
today (and really busy) when I stopped in for lunch. Its a bad sign
when these places are all closing. I'm hoping that Sandusky is still
in business.

Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

In article om>,
Eric Bartsch > wrote:
>
>Just heard today that Vince's restaurant at Muncie, IN (MIE) is also
>closed now.
>

Vince's closed right after the New Year but a new restaurant opened
there a few weeks ago. Right now they don't have Sunday hours, but
I've read they may change that once they get on their feet. I haven't
been there yet. Hope the food is as good as Vince's.

--
Scott Post

> Vince's closed right after the New Year but a new restaurant opened
> there a few weeks ago. Right now they don't have Sunday hours

Isn't that amazing? And it's all-to common with airport restaurants,
too.

I mean, think about it -- which two days of the week MUST a business
that caters to fly-in pilots be open? Do they REALLY think that
being closed fully half of the available flying weekend is a recipe
for success? Jeebus, these people who open (soon-to-fail) airport
restaurants need to have a business plan in hand BEFORE they try
running a business.

An example: Just today (Sunday) we flew to Waterloo, Iowa, for brunch
at the (relatively new) "Livingston's" in-terminal restaurant. We've
eaten there before, and it's always been good -- but today we arrived
and they were closed -- fully two hours before the posted closing
time!

We could hear them in there clattering dishes and laughing -- but we
were left to borrow a courtesy car and go elsewhere. With that kind
of customer "service" I expect they will follow the last five on-
airport restaurants down the toilet in Waterloo... We certainly
won't be back.

And people wonder why so many airport businesses fail...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 2007-03-18, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> but today we arrived
> and they were closed -- fully two hours before the posted closing
> time!

A pasta place I used to frequent for dinner in college used to complain
there wasn't enough dinner traffic. More than once in their final few
months of business I found them closed well before closing.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD
>
http://www.ben.com/

In article om>,
"Eric Bartsch" > wrote:

> Just heard today that Vince's restaurant at Muncie, IN (MIE) is also
> closed now.

It is still open, just under another name and new managment. I was there
two weeks ago.

In article . com>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > Vince's closed right after the New Year but a new restaurant opened
> > there a few weeks ago. Right now they don't have Sunday hours
>
> Isn't that amazing? And it's all-to common with airport restaurants,
> too.
>
> I mean, think about it -- which two days of the week MUST a business
> that caters to fly-in pilots be open? Do they REALLY think that
> being closed fully half of the available flying weekend is a recipe
> for success? Jeebus, these people who open (soon-to-fail) airport
> restaurants need to have a business plan in hand BEFORE they try
> running a business.

"Vince's" has been there for over 25 years under various names and
management. It reallly has a good location, being central to Toledo,
Columbus, Cincinnati and Indiannapolis.
It draws quite a bit of student business from Ball State. Many of the
Greeks can be found there before a formal and for off campus family
meetings.

> > Jeebus, these people who open (soon-to-fail) airport
> > restaurants need to have a business plan in hand BEFORE they try
> > running a business.
>
> "Vince's" has been there for over 25 years under various names and
> management.

It's that "under various names and management" part that ought to be a
clue that these guys don't have one. If it was such a "great
location" it would succeed over the long haul.

Restaurants are a tough enough business, failing for a plethora of
reasons, that they shouldn't create their own obvious problems by
staying closed on their second-busiest day of the week.

(We're in the process of trying to lure a restaurant to the property
next to the inn, and it's getting so frustrating trying to find a
potential operator who can find his ass with both hands that Mary and
I are seriously thinking of starting it ourselves...God help us...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 18, 6:01 pm, john smith > wrote:
> In article om>,
> "Eric Bartsch" > wrote:
>
> > Just heard today that Vince's restaurant at Muncie, IN (MIE) is also
> > closed now.
>
> It is still open, just under another name and new managment. I was there
> two weeks ago.

Glad to hear there is a new restuarant there. This will probably be
the 3rd or 4th version I've been aware of in the same location. How is
the food at the new place?

Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

On 17 Mar 2007 13:24:00 -0700, "Eric Bartsch" >
wrote:

>Does anyone know what happened to the Flying Turtle Restaurant at
>Mansfield OH (MFD)? I flew past there a couple of weeks ago and the
>ATIS stated that it was closed. At the time, I assumed this was
>temporary, but I was thinking of heading there for lunch tomorrow and
>I called & found the number was disconnected.

Still disconnected today.

They must have realized I only needed one more meal on my frequent
diner card to get my free one...

That place was always busy at lunch with locals, pilots & USAF folks
in there. Maybe with the drawdown at the base, their business
dropped off?? I'll have to research that further and see if I can
get the scoop

....Don B
Don Byrer
Commercial Pilot / CFI Student
Electronics Technician, RADAR/Data/Comm @ CLE
Amateur Radio KJ5KB

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"I know what it sounds like....when doves cry" (Bird Strike 8/29/05)

Jay Honeck wrote:
>> Vince's closed right after the New Year but a new restaurant opened
>> there a few weeks ago. Right now they don't have Sunday hours
>
> Isn't that amazing? And it's all-to common with airport restaurants,
> too.
>
> I mean, think about it -- which two days of the week MUST a business
> that caters to fly-in pilots be open? Do they REALLY think that
> being closed fully half of the available flying weekend is a recipe
> for success? Jeebus, these people who open (soon-to-fail) airport
> restaurants need to have a business plan in hand BEFORE they try
> running a business.

The trouble is that a restaurant that caters only to pilots will soon be
bankrupt as we are seeing everywhere. They have to draw from a much
larger crowd.

Matt